Kerbal Space Program

This bug-tracker has never been a good place to get information from Squad, but it is useful for getting updates and workarounds from other players.

In version 1.8.1, the secondary problem mentioned above is solved: when we decouple from an interstage fairing, things like RCS that were unusable inside the fairing become usable. (With bug #23997, fairings sometimes fail to have any effect, but I made sure to test a case where the fairing does work.)

The primary bug remains: an un-deployed interstage fairing continues to hold on to decoupled parts, if the root part of the joined craft is on the part that stays with the fairing base after decoupling.

So, if we want to decouple from interstage fairings in 1.8.1 (without first 'deploying' the fairing to detach the fairing sides) then we need to set the root part of the craft to be one of the parts that detaches from the fairing base.

[email protected] wrote:

We lost the example craft, I think accidentally, so I attached a version of the stock example craft 'Kerbal 1' modified with an inter-stage fairing to demonstrate the issue.

If the root part is the booster tank, the fairing fails to let go of the upper stage.
If the root part is somewhere in the upper stage, the craft works as desired as in the screen shot.

Players who have this problem can escape it by selecting as root part something on the section of craft that leaves the fairing,
root part not in the section that is left connected to the fairing base.

Unfortunately they dont appear to have been lost accidentally, thanks so much for attaching the craft file, will be super useful

This bug with more votes, constant comments and more history will receive attention earlier than new copies

Somehow I highly doubt that. There's a whole section of bugtracker that contains forgotten or lost bugs. You just need to check what was reported and if it was fixed or not. The percentage is not that great.

TriggerAu wrote:

[email protected] wrote:

We lost the example craft, I think accidentally, so I attached a version of the stock example craft 'Kerbal 1' modified with an inter-stage fairing to demonstrate the issue.

If the root part is the booster tank, the fairing fails to let go of the upper stage.
If the root part is somewhere in the upper stage, the craft works as desired as in the screen shot.

Players who have this problem can escape it by selecting as root part something on the section of craft that leaves the fairing,
root part not in the section that is left connected to the fairing base.

Unfortunately they dont appear to have been lost accidentally, thanks so much for attaching the craft file, will be super useful

Because I basically wanted to create a new report so this bug received some attention at least, but even if I try to delete the previous report (which I tried to do here) - somebody just comes in and reinstates it and closes the more recent one. By doing that this bugreport is not going to receive attention AGAIN and will be lost forever without a fix.

I think it has something to do with the root part of the vessel. If the fairing stays with the root part of the vessel, nothing is decoupling from it. If the fairing decouples from the root of the vessel (i.e. interstage of the rocket on the first stage with the root part on the second stage), then it's fine. See the attached video for demonstration.

Video #5: https://youtu.be/SgZHApejBs4

And again, there IS information about there being an issue with the root node and its location right there in the bugreport. Not like this bug happens only on a particular craft or something. If you can't just take that info and build a simple craft (which takes less that a minute, for god's sake) using the attached video (which I DIDN'T DELETE) - I don't even know how to help you anymore.

It feels like theres a few things being raised here, and Im happy to share insights;

• Im sorry if you feel that you dont know what to do, but I tried to help by explaining that closing the older version and reporting as a newer bug that started in a newer version is detrimental to this report getting attention.
• We dont simply look at the creation date or bug number of a report. Add comments if a new release comes out indicating that you feel this one deserves more attention, etc. It will be seen - as demonstrated by when this one was edited/closed we investiogated and got it back in the state where it is most likely to get triageds/assessed for assignment.
• Whether an individual report is picked or not is a prioritization decision Im unable to discuss as im sure everyone understands
• Having player created craft is immensely valuable as it helps us to confirm when fixing that we've solved the reporters issue more directly. I never said I was unable to create it myself, I simply expressed thanks to by [email protected] for providing something we ask for and find very useful as a double up

Hopefully that gives you a little more, and we do appreciate the time and passion you spend on identifying bugs like this

There is a change-log item for version 1.10 that sounds like it might pertain to this bug,
"* Fixed Interstage fairings holding onto the payload in certain use cases."
but it does not. There is no change to the behavior of the example craft.

Workarounds remain: (1) in the VAB, choose a part that stays attached to the fairing base to be the root part, (2) quicksave/quickload or switch to a distant craft and back to free the parts

victorr wrote:

We've made some changes in this latest version and would like some feedback on this issue.

Still present, but now it relates to the open-ended fairings as well, see #25660.

Also, I have a question. When the bug is not fixed like in this example, what are we supposed to set it to? "Not Fixed" or "Updated"? Or maybe don't touch it at all?