Kerbal Space Program

Thanks for the info and save file.
Don't worry about creating a new save.
Because you are using a lot of mods there is a high chance that it is a mod issue.

I can confirm this happening on KSP 1.7.3.2594 with 1.7.1 Making History & 1.2.0 Breaking Ground on Linux (64-bit Ubuntu 18.04). I don't use any mods.

With two active surface experiments (an Ion Collector on Mun and Minmus), about 40 screen messages are generated when warping one day. Generated science varies between 0.04 and 0.1 per message.

I too run a load of mods. But the stream of messages is getting insane. I've started a new game to try out all the Breaking Ground stuff and back and forth to Minmus I'm already getting about 250-300 messages, each way.
I'm currently making a Duna transfer with 2 scansats and 3 kerbals in a boat. 'Luckily' the counter broke at 551 after alt+tabbing to report this.

Also seeing this. Built a base of 3 next to launchpad to test it out, noticed that I was getting notifications of 0.000 science very often, drowning out any useful notifications. Unfortunately this is annoying enough that I turned them off and basically refuse to build any until these are fixed, going through 50+ messages every launch isn't fun. I'm excited about using this feature of this expansion I just paid for, so anything above "Low" priority would be great.

If this is intended to fire every day, I'm also worried that "fixing it" by reverting to daily will still have a similar effect when speeding up time for long transfers. I'd like to suggest removing it as a notification altogether and leaving it as a screen message only, once per day. In fact, it seems like that may have been the intention. The title of the message is "Screen Message" so maybe whomever implemented intended this to only be a screen message and not a notification.

Lastly, a related general ask: A feature to filter notifications out. May help alleviate the impact of similar issues in the future.

Welp, I found a way to at least get around the spam until the issue is fixed. I know this a far-from-ideal coarse workaround (or a blunt hack if you like), but at the very least we can continue to play in peace, though not with active ground science transmission.

In the persistent.sfs, changing ALL instances of the lines:

name = ModuleGroundExpControl
isEnabled = True

to

name = ModuleGroundExpControl
isEnabled = False

(or just turning off the ground science controllers in-game) will stop the experiments from communicating in any way, thus eliminating the message spam but also all associated science. Reversing the operation (in-game will take a kerbal physically at the experiments, which defeats the purpose) in Notepad will turn them back on.

Disabling the ground communicator in the same way didn't seem to have any effect (at all? I know I tried it but I don't think the ground comms have the same mechanics as the experiment controls, and I think I saw that when a ground controller has a nearby antenna, it changes its own comms power, so...).

To the best of my understanding, there's nothing that changed in the .sfs that would cause this, and my own and rrowland's experimentation shows that newly deployed modules react with the same bug, in old saves or new (I checked).

Please make no mistake: I do not consider this to be any kind of acceptable fix. This is a simple hack to allow play until the bug is addressed in a patch.

Clicking 100s of messages to clear them is highly annoying. This should be priority HIGH!

I tried this but it had no effect - after 30 secs the screen messages began to pour in again.

jjansen wrote:

Welp, I found a way to at least get around the spam until the issue is fixed. I know this a far-from-ideal coarse workaround (or a blunt hack if you like), but at the very least we can continue to play in peace, though not with active ground science transmission.

In the persistent.sfs, changing ALL instances of the lines:

name = ModuleGroundExpControl
isEnabled = True

to

name = ModuleGroundExpControl
isEnabled = False

(or just turning off the ground science controllers in-game) will stop the experiments from communicating in any way, thus eliminating the message spam but also all associated science. Reversing the operation (in-game will take a kerbal physically at the experiments, which defeats the purpose) in Notepad will turn them back on.

Disabling the ground communicator in the same way didn't seem to have any effect (at all? I know I tried it but I don't think the ground comms have the same mechanics as the experiment controls, and I think I saw that when a ground controller has a nearby antenna, it changes its own comms power, so...).

To the best of my understanding, there's nothing that changed in the .sfs that would cause this, and my own and rrowland's experimentation shows that newly deployed modules react with the same bug, in old saves or new (I checked).

Please make no mistake: I do not consider this to be any kind of acceptable fix. This is a simple hack to allow play until the bug is addressed in a patch.

Please fix. Almost 500 messages from 1 deployed station while going to Minmus and back. I remember an issue very much like this in the past. This probably should be considered a regression bug. Breaking

Robert.Keech wrote:

How many deployed science stations do you have deployed?
Could you provide your save file.

I remember something like this from a prior release. Please hot patch. Breaking ground should be considered broken. Near 500 messages in a simple trip to Minmus and back. One science station deployed.

AstroBalrog wrote:

I tried this but it had no effect - after 30 secs the screen messages began to pour in again.

Make sure to go to each station and turn them off manually. I had 2 of 4 survive the notepad termination fix, using notepad is more for restarting them.

I also have this. A game-breaking experience as I have to exit and reload the whole game after each interplanetary transfer. Game version 1.7.3, both expansion packs and a ton of mods, but I am fairly sure the mods are innocent as none of them alters the frequency at which the science data is transmitted.

I'm surprised this isn't getting any attention... It's been 2 weeks!

I play 100% vanilla, and in 1.7.2 I was getting a bunch but it wasn't game breaking. Just my flights to Jool were generating a LOT of messages that had to be manually cleared.

Now with 1.7.3, I get about 15 a second at regular speed. I took off from minimus, and my sismic detector started to go nuts. By the time I left min's SOI my game was unplayable.

BUMP!

bigtshades wrote:

I'm surprised this isn't getting any attention... It's been 2 weeks!
... my game was unplayable.

I'm also getting horribly spammed by these in-game messages as well. I play 100% vanilla, using the Steam version with current updates for both KSP and the Breaking Ground DLC. I'm surprised it's taking so long to fix this bug.

bigtshades wrote:

Now with 1.7.3, I get about 15 a second at regular speed. I took off from minimus, and my sismic detector started to go nuts. By the time I left min's SOI my game was unplayable.

I got the same today after crashing an obsolete lander into Minmus (3 Grand Slams total). Deployed science on the far side had no connection to Kerbin and started spamming messages, more than 10 per second.

The game was getting sluggish after 10k messages. I wanted to quicksave-load (as it cleared those messages before), but the game locked up on load with 14k messages.

Workaround: I found that I can clear the spam issue by switching to all my Experiment Control Stations on Minmus (wasn't sure which one was buggy) through the Tracking Station.
I've now edited the save file to get rid of the remaining messages (4410 identical).

I've had this issue too, twice. I am not running any mods, this is a recent install from Steam, 64 bit Windows.

After an impact on the Mun, I would get about 15 messages per second at 1x time, rapidly accumulating to tens of thousands of messages. With that many messages, the game would slow and freeze randomly, or if I accidentally moused over the messages icon. The same thing happened in another save with Minmus.

The workaround that I found was to make sure comms were in place, and then impact the Mun again. Worked on my other save with Minmus too. It was painful and difficult to do this with the constant crashing/freezing. Litemaster's workaround (which I have not tried) is much simpler, if it does work.

victorr wrote:

We've made some changes in this latest version and would like some feedback on this issue. Thanks.

I tried loading my old save from a few months ago, seems like the surface science is accumulating about once every other Earth day, per experiment. Much much slower, but still a lot of messages.

The "delete all" messages button is a nice addition.

Maybe add a tab in Mission Control to corral this data, and just strike it from the onscreen popups?

I can see the use of knowing about it, somewhere, but to know that I just got 23.45234q43w25rq23 science from my Dunar weather station isn't something that NEEDs to be mentioned in the middle of an ascent burn.