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Bug #22932

Deploy Direction briefly changes when control-surface crosses CoM

Added by Anonymous almost 5 years ago. Updated almost 3 years ago.

Status:
Confirmed
Severity:
Low
Assignee:
-
Category:
Gameplay
Target version:
-
Start date:
06/19/2019
% Done:

10%

Version:
Platform:
Windows
Expansion:
Core Game
Language:
English (US)
Mod Related:
No
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Description

Whenever the extended hinge-axis of a control surface crosses the center of mass of the craft,
the direction of deflection quickly reverses, then returns to its correct direction at normal actuation speed.

In the base game, we can most easily move the CoM by pumping fuel. The deployed winglet glitches when the pumping moves the center of mass across the winglet's hinge.
(If we un-deploy the winglet and use it for yaw, the direction of yaw control correctly reverses when the CoM moves across the line of the hinge. The deploy direction, however, is not supposed to reverse, and does not reverse in the long-term, except for a momentary glitch with takes a second or two to recover.)

This rarely causes problems in the base game, but with Breaking Ground, the control surface can easily be moved so that its actuation axis crosses the CoM. The second attached craft shows the glitch by actuating a hinge.

In actual use, this glitch came up quite quickly after Deploy Limit was usefully added to axis groups:
https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/185577-alternating-lift-on-rotor-blades/
The trigger for the reversal of direction is not so easy to see, however, in that natural use-case.

DeployDirectionTanks.craft (9.75 KB) DeployDirectionTanks.craft base-game example, shift ore Anonymous, 06/19/2019 06:35 AM
DeployDirection.craft (12.5 KB) DeployDirection.craft easier example using breaking ground Anonymous, 06/19/2019 06:35 AM
deploy.jpg (68 KB) deploy.jpg Anonymous, 06/19/2019 06:36 AM
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History

#1 Updated by diomedea almost 5 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Confirmed
  • % Done changed from 0 to 10

Good catch!

#3 Updated by Vycma almost 5 years ago

This is related to the issue here:

https://bugs.kerbalspaceprogram.com/issues/21949

#4 Updated by Anonymous almost 5 years ago

  • Subject changed from Deploy Direction briefly unnecessarily changes with CoM to Deploy Direction briefly changes when control-surface crosses CoM

#5 Updated by Anonymous about 4 years ago

  • Description updated (diff)

#6 Updated by Anonymous about 4 years ago

#20847 seems to be another realistic example of this glitch in the base-game.

#7 Updated by Anonymous almost 3 years ago

Fixed on or before version 1.11.2. That is, the test craft work with no glitch in version 1.11.2

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