Bug #23199
Sandbox/Science Mode: Enable Kerbal Experience Overrides SAS on All Probes Setting
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Description
Hardware:
CPU: AMD A8-3500M
GPU: Radeon HD 6620G
Memory: 6 GB
OS: Linux Mint 19.1
KSP:
Version: 1.7.3
Making History: 1.7.1
Breaking Ground: 1.2.0
Steam version, but copied files out of Steam directory and launched via KSP.x86_64
Objective: Play a science/sandbox game in which Kerbals are restricted to class traits but all probes have access to all SAS modes
Observation: Enabling Kerbal Experience in advanced settings ignores the All SAS Modes setting (probes show default behavior)
First noticed in a modded science save
Reproduced in a clean install sandbox save
Reproduction:
1) a) Start a new sandbox savegame leaving default settings, but make sure "All SAS modes on all probes" is enabled (screenshot0)
b) Enter the VAB and launch a craft containing only a Stayputnik probe core
c) Activate SAS by pressing 'T'
d) As expected, all SAS modes are available (screenshot1)
(Note: All Kerbal classes also have access to all SAS modes)
2) a) Start another new sandbox savegame leaving default settings, but make sure "All SAS modes on all probes" AND "Enable Kerbal experience" are activated (screenshot3)
b) Enter the VAB and launch a craft containing only a Stayputnik probe core
c) Activate SAS by pressing 'T'
d) No SAS modes are available and onscreen message regarding no pilots/SAS probes is presented (screenshot4)
(Note: SAS is restricted to only pilot Kerbals as expected)
(Note: Other probe cores, HECS and OCTO notably, are also limited to their default SAS settings)
| screenshot1.png (829 KB) screenshot1.png | Stayputnik on launchpad with all SAS available | ||
| screenshot0.png (426 KB) screenshot0.png | Settings page - All SAS on all probes | ||
| screenshot2.png (428 KB) screenshot2.png | Setting page - All SAS on all probes AND enable Kerbal experience | ||
| screenshot3.png (844 KB) screenshot3.png | Stayputnik on launchpad no SAS message | ||
| test1.sfs (18.2 KB) test1.sfs | Save file - All SAS on all probes | ||
| test2.sfs (18.1 KB) test2.sfs | Save file - All SAS on all probes and enable Kerbal experience |
History
#1
Updated by Robert.Keech over 4 years ago
Updated by - Status changed from New to Confirmed
- % Done changed from 0 to 10
#3
Updated by Robert.Keech over 4 years ago
- Assignee set to Robert.Keech
#4
Updated by victorr almost 4 years ago
Updated by - Status changed from Confirmed to Ready to Test
- Target version set to 1.11.1
- % Done changed from 10 to 80
We've made some changes in the latest version of the game and would like some feedback on this issue. Thanks.
#5
Updated by BlkBltChemie over 3 years ago
Updated by 
victorr wrote:
We've made some changes in the latest version of the game and would like some feedback on this issue. Thanks.
Hi Team,
Thanks for taking a look at this issue!
Version 1.11.2 (partially fixed):
Utilizing the settings "All SAS modes on all probes" AND "Enable Kerbal experience" in Sandbox mode
> Stayputnik probe core has access to all SAS modes (fixes the originally reported issue)
> However, all kerbal classes still have access to all SAS modes although they are all indicated as level 0 (no stars)
> This has broken the previous behavior where only pilots had access to SAS as expected by the settings
> It appears that the bugfix has repaired the "All SAS modes on all probes" setting but there is still a conflict with the "Enable Kerbal experience" setting.
Version 1.12.0 (not fixed; behavior as originally reported):
Utilizing the settings "All SAS modes on all probes" AND "Enable Kerbal experience" in Sandbox mode
> Stayputnik probe core has no SAS modes
> Kerbal classes behave as expected
Thank you again for investigating these settings issues!