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Bug #19026

Seems mass and cost values may have been overlooked in structural tube and thrust plate configs

Added by shamash_d over 1 year ago. Updated 7 months ago.

Status:
Closed
Priority:
Low
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Category:
Parts
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% Done:

100%

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Windows
Expansion:
Making History
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English (US)
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Description

Seems the mass, cost, and unlock costs got overlooked when the new structural tubes and thrust plates for Making History were being made. They all share the same value (75 kg, 300 funds to use, 3000 funds to unlock) regardless of diameter. I'm guessing the basics of the configs were copied to save time and those entries must have just been missed when going through and correcting the values to represent the different sizes.

screenshot330.png (2.48 MB) screenshot330.png The smallest tube. The cost and mass are visible. A mk 1 pod has been attached so the scale is apparent, it costs 600 funds and masses 840 kg with a full monoprop tank shamash_d, 05/23/2018 12:50 AM
screenshot331.png (2.39 MB) screenshot331.png The largest tube with a mk 1 pod for scale. The cost and mass are the same as the prior image. shamash_d, 05/23/2018 12:50 AM
screenshot335.png (2.8 MB) screenshot335.png The smallest thrust plate with a mk 1 pod for scale. The cost and mass are identical to the structural tubes shamash_d, 05/23/2018 12:50 AM
screenshot336.png (2.73 MB) screenshot336.png The largest thrust plate with a mk 1 pod for scale. shamash_d, 05/23/2018 12:50 AM
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History

#2 Updated by klesh over 1 year ago

  • Tracker changed from Feedback to Bug
  • Status changed from New to Confirmed
  • % Done set to 10

Just had a look myself, can confirm. I feel they should have different masses at the very least. I'm inclined to call this a bug and set to confirm.

#3 Updated by joshua.collins about 1 year ago

  • Status changed from Confirmed to Ready to Test
  • Target version set to 1.5.0
  • % Done changed from 10 to 80

#4 Updated by Nebbie 9 months ago

  • Status changed from Ready to Test to Resolved
  • % Done changed from 80 to 100

Costs and masses are now indeed different.

#5 Updated by k-ohara5a5a@oco.net 9 months ago

The variants have different mass and cost,
but the values are all so low compared to the decouplers that they are effectively still the same, at essentially zero.
EP18 2, 4, 7, 9, 13kg 9, 16, 23, 28, 39f (cf. 120kg 475f for a decoupler)
EP25 4, 8,12,16, 23kg 15, 26, 36, 45, 62f (cf 210kg 550f)
EP50 31,47,62,94,125kg 78,109,137,189,238f (cf 640kg 650f)

[Edit:The variant masses are in the sensible order. Earlier I was reading 13,2,4,7,9kg from the Engineer's Report, going from short to long, but the numbers I read were delayed. Touching the next part brings Engineer's Report up to date. ]

#6 Updated by 5thHorseman 9 months ago

I agree, the costs and masses of the plates should - for the smallest plate of each diameter - be at least equal to the cost of the same-diameter decoupler, and possibly more considering the added benefit of extra engines. And of course they should go UP with tweaked length, not down :)

#7 Updated by k-ohara5a5a@oco.net 9 months ago

Alternatively, rather than including cost and mass appropriate to the decoupler mechanism of the Engine Plate,
you could remove the deoupler mechanism, letting us add our own below as many players do already. #21143

#8 Updated by joshua.collins 7 months ago

  • Status changed from Resolved to Closed

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