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Bug #22766

Docking landed on Minmus with robotics parts teleports vessels, ripping them apart.

Added by Madrawn almost 5 years ago. Updated almost 5 years ago.

Status:
Confirmed
Severity:
Low
Assignee:
-
Category:
Physics
Target version:
-
Start date:
06/04/2019
% Done:

10%

Version:
Platform:
OSX, Windows
Expansion:
Breaking Ground, Core Game, Making History
Language:
English (US)
Mod Related:
No
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Description

When I extend the piston to make the connection between 2 docking ports the second vessel suddenly teleports behind my vessel upon successful docking ripping both vessels apart in the process. I see a short "physics easing" message, but disabling it in the settings, the message still appears and behavior isn't different.

See the save in the attachment. Just extend the piston and watch. Pay attention to the single docking port clipped in the command pod afterwards, which you can undock although it isn't connected to anything, leading to it spinning away.

bug.zip (139 KB) bug.zip Madrawn, 06/04/2019 10:02 AM
screenshot0.png (1.1 MB) screenshot0.png Example vehicle. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 04:57 PM
screenshot4.png (744 KB) screenshot4.png Just after docking, vehicle thrashes about. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 04:58 PM
screenshot6.png (979 KB) screenshot6.png Docking ports connected, but not aligned properly 18Watt, 06/30/2019 04:59 PM
screenshot7.png (628 KB) screenshot7.png Example of the forces involved. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 05:00 PM
screenshot15.png (965 KB) screenshot15.png Another example of ports misaligned. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 05:01 PM
screenshot16.png (1010 KB) screenshot16.png The Beam is also no longer aligned with the hinge. Hard to see. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 05:02 PM
screenshot17.png (919 KB) screenshot17.png This works, ship launched with hinged ports aligned for docking. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 07:59 PM
screenshot18.png (971 KB) screenshot18.png Successful docking of pre-aligned ports. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 08:00 PM
screenshot19.png (919 KB) screenshot19.png Attempt 2, ports not pre-aligned. Need to pivot with hinge. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 08:01 PM
screenshot20.png (835 KB) screenshot20.png Rotated hinge to proper angle for docking. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 08:02 PM
screenshot21.png (1.02 MB) screenshot21.png This ended badly, ports are 'joined', but one is mis-aligned. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 08:03 PM
screenshot22.png (750 KB) screenshot22.png After decouple, observe Dock Jr now not joined to hinge correctly. 18Watt, 06/30/2019 08:04 PM
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History

#1 Updated by 18Watt almost 5 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Confirmed
  • % Done changed from 0 to 10
  • Platform OSX added

I’m seeing similar behavior on OSX, with Breaking Ground (and Making History).

My attempts have involved two vessels on the ground. One is a ‘stationary’ landed vessel with docking ports. The other is a ‘rover’, which is mobile using wheels. I’m using (stock) robotic parts to facilitate docking.

On the ‘rover’, I have a CanadArm style assembly, which consists of Servo, Hinge, Piston, Hinge. At the end of the last hinge is a docking port, which I’m trying to dock with the stationary, ‘landed’ vessel.

What happens: When the ‘rover’s’ robotic arm and docking port attach to the docking port of the other vessel, the two ports appear to try to line up with one port ‘flipped’ 180 deg. This ends up violently flipping the lighter vessel. Usually one vessel ends up clipped inside the other vessel. On low G bodies (Minmus) the process usually has enough energy to send one or both vessels flying and tumbling.

#2 Updated by 18Watt almost 5 years ago

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Adding screenshots.

I've tried reducing servo, hinge, and piston motor strength to the lowest settings.

#3 Updated by 18Watt almost 5 years ago

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Did some more testing, using simpler vehicles.

In attempt 1, I attached Dock Port Jr.'s to hinges on the ends of the vessel. The hinges were initially aligned for docking. This test was successful, no docking issues.

In attempt 2, I attached the same Dock Port Jr.'s to the same hinges, but this time the hinges were not initially aligned for docking. I needed to rotate the hinge(s) 90 deg. to dock. This resulted in the following bizarre results:

- The vessels lurched violently during docking.
- The docking ports were 'joined', however their alignment was not correct, roughly 90 deg. off.
- After undocking, one Dock Port Jr.'s attachment to it's hinge is now 90 deg. off, appears to have permanently changed the geometry of the pair.

One guess is that after docking, the docking port tries to orient itself how it was when the vessel was launched.

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