Kerbal Space Program

This should really not be marked as "Low" priority. Just since the 1.4.2 update, even Mk2 landing legs are exploding when spawning on the Launchpad. Autostrutting doesn't make a difference, nor does enabling rigid connection. In the flight log (F3) it gives a message that the landing leg collided with terrain.

Even a couple of full ore tanks can't be supported on launchpad by 4 x LT-2 legs. Landing legs now completely useless. Worked fine in 1.4.1

I'm having the same issue. On the launch pad, the struts first bounce around a bit, stabilize, and then explode. You can easily reproduce this by creating a ship that is just a command pod, a large fuel tank and a bunch of L2 struts.

This should be considered "critical" not being able to land or load ships on the ground is "game breaking".

THIS SHOULD HELP IF YOU'RE STUCK

Since the landing struts are OOC until a fix is released, try to land gently (<0.5 m/s on large ships) on your engines or other structures (pull the landing gear up) if you already built your ships before. They can take a lot more than the struts do currently. If constructing new, you can use wheels. They don't take heat as well for Eve and other atmospheric planets, but they can take a much greater impact. You can arrange them in a circular array around your ship and turn motors and steering off, then max out traction control and breaks. This will substitute landing gear, and also avoids the bounce when spring physics kicks in after warp or loading. Don't worry if you damage your wheels. You don't need to fix them as that is just for using the motors and steering anyway.

g00bd0g wrote:

This should be considered "critical" not being able to land or load ships on the ground is "game breaking".

totally agree. its been 4days that the game is unusable because of this bug

this is a CRITICAL issue that needs to be fixed ASAP

Duplicated this last night. Blew medium landing gear on a 1.2 m/s touch down on the Mun

This (among quite a few others mentioned on this site) is game breaking.

Root issue might be #18380

jack_mustang wrote:

Root issue might be #18380

Just note regarding this the vessel I posted screenshot of was not part of any larger vessel and I had similar issues with vessels spawned on landing pad that were just a fuel tank and legs and never decoupled from anything.

Just wanted to add a note that I've run into this issue on Linux as well. I noticed the Platform for this bug was only set to Windows and Xbox.

The training missions "To the Mun P2" is now pretty much impossible to do "correctly", that is to say, without blowing the landing struts.

As a new player, I was sure I was doing something wrong! But, no, it's the game being buggy. :| While this doesn't make the game unplayable, it does feel like a rather serious issue.

"From the Mun" - training mission cannot not be completet - the landing struds explods on load and the rocket jumps into the air and crashes.

To the mun 2 - you cannot land correcly - the rocket keeps jumping, like the ground are made of jelly.

I can confirm this happening on Linux as well.

sbonds wrote:

I replicated this bug on a new career started on an unmodded 1.4.2 install to the point where a lander with gear that explodes on the launch pad could be created. "Making History" is not installed for this instance of KSP.

As a workaround, the part data in the directory <Game Base Dir>\KSP_win64\GameData\Squad\Parts\Utility\landingLegLT-2\landingLegLT-2.cfg (for the LT-2) can be changed. For the attached test craft changing the crashTolerance to 100 allows it to survive launch pad drop tests up to about 6 m/s without issues. At 8 m/s gear starts to explode and by 12 m/s the destruction is catastrophic.

I took a look at the crashTolerance in my file and it was set to 12. The specs in the game say it should have a tolerance of 120 m/s so I think this value was supposed to be 120. I tried it out with various craft and I think I like this value better. The LT-1 is supposed to be 12 m/s and LT-5 is 10 m/s which is consistent with the values in their files.

I also noted that the at least the LT-2 appears to be FAR more sensitive to side-loads than it was previously. After spending way too much time trying to land a fuel tanker on the FLATS at Minmus, I realized that retracting a couple of legs actually made it easier / safer. The vertical impact had to be small, but the side-load, i.e., horizontal velocity, had to be within a few cm/s of zero or all heck broke loose. This is, of course, ridiculous. Oddly a small rover docking to the bottom of the ship also caused an explosion in the side-loaded legs, and the actual impulse from the docking had to be tiny, as the rover weighed a tiny fraction of the total mass fo the ship.

If Squad could provide corrected values for the various settings for these parts to allow a ModuleManager patch to get back to something like normal in short order, that would be super. Better yet, an actual patch - but just the variables and values would be a start. The community gets that you cannot push a new release every couple of days, but come on - we cannot land our spacecraft here - our career mode games are basically on hold unless we revert to 1.4.1. I, for one, generally enjoy the latest features so want to stay on the current version track. So I resist going back to older versions as I will loose updates unless I look for them. So this is something of a pickle.

This issue literally breaks the game and should be marked critical, not normal.

Performed numerous tests, and landed my 536 ton ship (24 large landing legs) on the Moon at just under 4 m/s resulting in a few bounces and stable footing. I'd say this bug has been fixed.