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Feedback #4877

Material Bay is now called Science Jr. but the contracts still refer to it as Material Bay.

Added by Xrave almost 9 years ago. Updated about 4 years ago.

Status:
Being Worked On
Severity:
Low
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Category:
Parts
Target version:
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Platform:
Any
Expansion:
Core Game
Language:
English (US)
Mod Related:
No
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SC-9001 Science Jr is referred to as Material Bay in contracts that want probes in particular orbits. I don't think new players will get it.

In another note, why is the Version box of the bug report not sorted in order (lol)

matbay.jpg (356 KB) matbay.jpg [email protected] bewing, 06/22/2017 12:54 PM
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History

#1 Updated by EddieRod1285 almost 9 years ago

IKR bugs even on the bug tracker! I was looking at that yesterday as well! I hope a lot of this stuff gets fixed before .... oh wait :-(

#2 Updated by Ruedii almost 9 years ago

  • Tracker changed from Bug to Feedback

This would fall under feedback, not a bug. I took the liberty of changing it such so it doesn't just get marked "not a bug."

Yes, I think the Science Jr. should have "materials bay" in it's name and/or description to clarify this. After all, some mods provide alternative materials bay parts.

#3 Updated by TriggerAu over 7 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Needs Clarification

#4 Updated by 5thHorseman about 7 years ago

What needs clarification?

The part in the VAB is named "Science Jr" and nowhere on the part or in the description does it refer to it being a "Materials Bay."

In all contracts that call for you to put a Science Jr on a probe or station say you need a "Materials Bay" on the vessel.

This is continually confusing to players new to career mode.

Yes, right clicking the Science Jr does prompt you to "Observe Materials Bay" which at least gives someone the CHANCE to figure it out, but considering this isn't supposed to be a puzzle game the obfuscation between the contracts and the part description should be changed somehow.

#5 Updated by peder almost 7 years ago

Just want to say that 10-05-2017 I have the above "text" problem.

I often see it in "sattelite missions"

Example the mission requirment say.
"Have a material bay on the sattelite."

But when i look for a part named "material bay", then I get confused since there are not such a specific part.
personaly when i read materials bay, then there are two options "sc-9001 science jr or the "service bay" that is my guess of what part i need.
I think the word "materials bay" is a bit confusing to many players ( for people who do not speak native english ), and that it should be called the specific part name that you need instead. It would make it more easy to understand i think. ;-)

#6 Updated by bewing almost 7 years ago

  • File matbay.jpg matbay.jpg added
  • Status changed from Needs Clarification to Ready to Test
  • Target version set to 1.3.0
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It says "Materials Bay" on it now. See pic.

#7 Updated by Ruedii about 6 years ago

Technically the Science Jr. is A materials bay, not the materials bay.

Some mods add more. Typically contracts look for the science module for a materials bay which such mods should use if they are wanting to provide similar functionality.

#8 Updated by bitnick almost 5 years ago

  • Status changed from Ready to Test to Not Fixed
  • Expansion Core Game added

Still in 1.7.0.

Confused me until I found this thread: https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/95693-where-do-i-find-a-quotmaterials-bayquot/

To repeat: Some (satellite) contracts require you to have a "materials bay" on the satellite. This part doesn't exist in the VAB or in the science tree. What you need to complete the contract is an "SC-9001 Science Jr".

#9 Updated by Anonymous almost 5 years ago

The request is to change in Contracts.cfg,
in the section Contracts:Satellite:PART_REQUEST // A potential materials bay request for satellites
replace
PartDescription = #autoLOC_500061 //#autoLOC_500061 = materials bay
with
PartDescription = #autoLOC_500691 //#autoLOC_500691 = SC-9001 Science Jr.

In recent versions of the game including 1.7, the contract template tests the specific "Part = science_module" which is the lookup-name of the SC-9001.
The contract template could be expanded to the class of parts with "Module = ModuleScienceExperiment", but there is no class of parts associated with the name 'materials bay'.

#10 Updated by Anonymous about 4 years ago

Another report here https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/191588-mission-requires-a-part-that-i-cannot-find/

#7019 (although its main complaint seems to be fixed) points out a similar mismatch in contracts.cfg. Two contract rules contain
PartDescription = #autoLOC_500027 //#autoLOC_500027 = research lab
PartDescription = #autoLOC_500070 //#autoLOC_500070 = research lab
but there is no part called "research lab" and these contract require a station to contain a
#autoLOC_500688 = Mobile Processing Lab MPL-LG-2

#11 Updated by Zhetaan about 4 years ago

  • Category set to Parts
  • Version changed from 1.0 to 1.9.0

This is still confusing players; a contract really ought to ask for the part by its proper part name.

I'm updating the target version to hopefully garner some more interest from the developers.

#12 Updated by Zhetaan about 4 years ago

  • Version changed from 1.9.0 to 1.8.1

#13 Updated by just_jim about 4 years ago

  • Project changed from Kerbal Space Program to KSP Develop
  • Category changed from Parts to Parts
  • Status changed from Not Fixed to Updated
  • Target version deleted (1.3.0)
  • Resolve when Fixed On set to Single Reported Platform
  • Language deleted (English (US))

#14 Updated by Jay about 4 years ago

  • Status changed from Updated to Being Worked On
  • Assignee set to Jay

#16 Updated by just_jim about 4 years ago

  • File deleted (2020-02-13 13_38_49-KSP - spaceCenter - PC, Mac & Linux Standalone - Unity 2019.2.2f1 _DX11_.png)

#17 Updated by TriggerAu about 4 years ago

  • Project changed from KSP Develop to Kerbal Space Program
  • Category changed from Parts to Parts
  • Resolve when Fixed On deleted (Single Reported Platform)
  • Language English (US) added

#18 Updated by TriggerAu about 4 years ago

We mistakenly moved this one and so theres some extra items in the coments

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